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Re: [freenet-chat] Installing a bare-bones Linux system is really hard!
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 09:58:30PM +0200, Marcel Popescu wrote:
> From: "Tavin Cole" <tavin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > Uhhh... I don't really follow your logic here. We should have more forests
> if
> > people aren't cutting them down. And please don't conflate a tree plantation
> > with a forest.
>
> Oh boy, you're so dumb. The chicken population would disappear overnight if
> people would suddenly cease to want to eat them. There are huge forests planted
> for the sole purpose of being cut down - for a profit. The owner of the forest
> wants to make a profit next year, too, so he replants them. Without the profit
> motive (let's say it's no longer legal to sell trees), the owner would cut all
> of them and start grow something else (profitable) instead.
Yep, it's obviously a scientific fact that no natural species were capable of
surviving until humans ascribed a profit motive to them. In fact forests have
really just grown enormously since that happened.
> > Btw, a land area cultivated in hemp rather than trees can produce 4 times as
> > much paper over the years and has a 3-6 month rotation instead of 20 years.
>
> Good. I'm not against this. [I was just asking whether this would be more
> satisfactorily from an ecological POV, whatever that is.]
It is.
> > > > For example, can you
> > > > just sit down in a dark, quiet room and not think a single thought for 10
> > > > minutes and be happy? What happens?
> > >
> > > This would be PROGRESS? Yuck... We almost had a civil war between students
> and
> > > workers, and the workers held signs that said "we work, not think". I didn't
> > > realize those were the progressive forces.
> >
> > I don't say it's PROGRESS, I say it's an interesting experiment.
> > Your reaction of "Yuck" is certainly interesting.
>
> Yeah. Anybody suggesting that I don't think gets that reaction.
>
> Mark
>
>
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